On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 04:19:44PM -0400, Jim Giner wrote: > On 8/21/2014 1:20 PM, Paul M Foster wrote: > >Folks: > > > >Over the years, I've heard a lot of back and forth about require_once, > >require, include, include_once and he like. Most of it centers around > >the CPU time taken to execute these calls. > > > >The "C" way to do something similar is to define a constant in a header > >file and then check for its existence in the C code file. In PHP, this > >would be roughly like this: > > > >LIBRARY FILE: > > > >define('CONST_DATE', TRUE); > > > >CODE FILE: > > > >if (!defined('CONST_DATE')) > > include('date.lib.php'); > > > >Has anyone ever compared execute times to see if something like this > >would be "cheaper" than include/require[_once]? Any thoughts on it? > > > >Paul > > > I dont' understand your question. Basically the use of > include/require et al, is to include code from other stand-alone > units. It's not just looking for some one little thing such as a > constant value to exist. It's using a modular style of programming > and putting the pieces together at call time using require/include, > etc. > > Am I missing the question here? Yes, you are. In C, code from file B is compiled separately from file A (a "makefile" is used to coordinate the compilation of each and all files). These are all standalone object files at the end of compilation. In order for file A to actually *use* the code in file B, a header file is written for the routines in file B, and that header file is conditionally included in the compilation of file A. The above code is a PHP approximation of how it's typically done in C. In PHP, the mechanism used to include code from another file in the current one involves one of four calls: include() include_once() require() require_once() But over the years, I've read many comments about how each of these calls slows down PHP, some more than others. So my question was whether anyone had ever tested this mechanism against the way it's done in C (as above) to determine if one is faster than the others. (By the way, the C method of doing this is not dictated by the language, but has arisen as a common method of accomplishing what the language itself is not set up to do.) Paul -- Paul M. Foster http://noferblatz.com http://quillandmouse.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php