Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for license change

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No, you don't have to sell your soul to a commercial company. You just have to unite and form a legal entity/foundation like Mozilla or Python Software Foundation.

> On Apr 3, 2014, at 8:54, Kris Craig <kris.craig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Sharon Levy <slevy1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pierre Joye" <pierre.php@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <musicdenotation@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Cc: "PHP internals" <internals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 10:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for license change
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:31 AM,  <musicdenotation@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 1, 2, 3. Zend?
>> 
>> Zend does not own PHP. And the waste majority of contributors do not
>> even work for Zend.
>> 
>> 4, 5. GPL compatibility is for users to use PHP in a GPL-licensed
>>> project, not for PHP developers to include GPL-licensed code in their PHP
>>> project.
>> 
>> Well, even for the latter there are issues. Let alone the v3 and *GPL
>> licenses, which create even more confusions.
>> 
>> 6. group@xxxxxxx may license the mark unconditionally for licensees to
>>> achieve the same effect as "removing the clause". The mark license would be
>>> for copyright, so there would be no conflict with the trademark ("PHP®").
>> 
>> And how do you finance it? World wild?
>> ............................................................
>> .....................
>> I'd like to respond to question of who owns PHP with some thoughts that I
>> trust are germane to the topic.
>> 
>> Why does the PHP project continue to be without any kind of corporate
>> sponsorship in contrast to the opensource project Ubuntu which is backed by
>> Canonical?  If the PHP project were to have a company supporting it,
>> wouldn't it be better protected? And, with a company backing it wouldn't
>> the issue of acquiring a trademark then be feasible?
>> 
>> -- Sharon
>> 
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> And if the company's shareholders decide they want PHP to go in a certain
> direction, what then?  I'm not necessarily opposed to the idea.  It just
> makes me really, really nervous.  I'm not sure a trademark and funding
> would be worth giving-up our independence.
> 
> --Kris

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