On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Jim Giner <jim.giner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote: > On 7/5/2013 1:32 PM, shiplu wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Jim Giner <jim.giner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> **wrote: >> >> Mike Hall comes back as 10, not 9 >>> F.B. comes back as 5, not 4. >>> >>> >> Doesn't work for me. >> >> php > var_dump("Mike Hall", strlen("Mike Hall")); >> string(9) "Mike Hall" >> int(9) >> >> Try trimming it first and then apply strlen. >> >> >> Why would I need to trim something that I can already see doesn't have > any trailing or leading characters? > > Because there are characters you can't see?