Re: Re: Reaching the PHP mailing list owners

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Hello Daniel,

I wanted to get an answer to my question (which you would have seen, if you
actually had read the mail).

I got a mail that messages bounced from my mail server. So I sent a reply to
the list owner to get an explanation how this is possible, since my mail
server only rejects mails which are flagged by the clamav milter (and this did
not happen). But then, instead of an answer, I got an automated response,
which basically means only one thing: I don't give a damn about your problems
and buzz off. Mailing list owners are supposed to be real people, not bots.

I'm sorry, I was really irritated by this automated respone. It is not very
professional sending people to go in circles.

Cheers,
 Helmut

On 12.10.12 14:01 , Daniel Brown wrote:
>     What is it you're trying to achieve with the below, Helmut?
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Helmut Tessarek <tessarek@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Well, this is useful.
>>
>> First I get a a message that the owner of the list is available at
>> internals-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and then I get another automated reply.
>>
>> On 12.10.12 13:48 , PHP Lists Owner wrote:
>>> This is an automated response to your message to "internals-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
>>>
>>> If you are trying to post to one of the PHP mailing lists, the correct
>>> address looks something like php-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.
>>>
>>> If you are having problems unsubscribing, follow the directions
>>> located online at http://php.net/unsub
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> --- Your original email is below.
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Can you please explain to me how this can happen?
>>> My mail server only rejects mails which do not pass the clamav milter and I
>>> haven't seen any virus alerts in the mail log which would refer to the
>>> messages you have mentioned.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>  Helmut
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12.10.12 6:44 , internals-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>> Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
>>>> internals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx mailing list.
>>>>
>>>> I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
>>>> at internals-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Messages to you from the internals mailing list seem to
>>>> have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce
>>>> message I received.
>>>>
>>>> If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces,
>>>> I will remove your address from the internals mailing list,
>>>> without further notice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've kept a list of which messages from the internals mailing list have
>>>> bounced from your address.
>>>>
>>>> Copies of these messages may be in the archive.
>>>>
>>>> To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request),
>>>> send an empty message to:
>>>>    <internals-get.123_145@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>> To receive a subject and author list for the last 100 or so messages,
>>>> send an empty message to:
>>>>    <internals-index@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>> Here are the message numbers:
>>>>
>>>>    63243
>>>>    63245
>>>>    63244
>>>>    63246
>>>>
>>>> --- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.
>>>>
>>>> Return-Path: <>
>>>> Received: (qmail 81005 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2012 14:49:47 -0000
>>>> Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1)
>>>>   by localhost with SMTP; 30 Sep 2012 14:49:47 -0000
>>>> Return-Path: <>
>>>> Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([local])
>>>>      by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with INTERNAL
>>>>      id 70/00-15389-30C58605 for <>; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 10:49:39 -0400
>>>> From: Mail Delivery System <Mailer-Daemon@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: internals-return-63243-tessarek=evermeet.cx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Mail Delivery Failure
>>>> Message-Id: <6E/E1-13052-744D6605@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 10:49:39 -0400
>>>>
>>>> This message was created automatically by the mail system (ecelerity).
>>>>
>>>> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
>>>> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
>>>>
>>>>>>> tessarek@xxxxxxxxxxx (while not connected): 554 5.4.7 [internal] exceeded max time without delivery
>>>>
>>>> ------ This is a copy of the headers of the original message. ------
>>>>
>>>> Return-Path: <internals-return-63243-tessarek=evermeet.cx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> X-Host-Fingerprint: 76.75.200.58 pb1.pair.com
>>>> Received: from [76.75.200.58] ([76.75.200.58:4337] helo=lists.php.net)
>>>>      by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP
>>>>      id 6E/E1-13052-744D6605 for <tessarek@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 06:58:15 -0400
>>>> Received: (qmail 1431 invoked by uid 1010); 29 Sep 2012 10:57:45 -0000
>>>> Mailing-List: contact internals-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; run by ezmlm
>>>> Precedence: bulk
>>>> list-help: <mailto:internals-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:internals-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> list-post: <mailto:internals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> List-Id: internals.lists.php.net
>>>> Delivered-To: mailing list internals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Received: (qmail 1417 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2012 10:57:45 -0000
>>>> Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@xxxxxxxxx; spf=pass; sender-id=pass
>>>> Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@xxxxxxxxx; sender-id=pass
>>>> Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.160.42 as permitted sender)
>>>> X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.42 mail-pb0-f42.google.com
>>>> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
>>>>         d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
>>>>         h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to
>>>>          :cc:content-type;
>>>>         bh=prZm0cGKMFMCkD/fbiF1tCeiDSlTMznmUQpVEygTdy0=;
>>>>         b=TOSHdETdaKP7G5Ou1eBP7tZVyMRgBjAmfZTyGJWi4L3mNrHEVponyIOiJFE9Vl9Qpq
>>>>          k9Th+dyyG39Yqh6QinwAz0CEa2NptoMgeKofnF5MxHxXlq0aykkArjJSBUaHFZxFpaVg
>>>>          3Pw8mm8Aw3a1FbsZTsbiEIRFPVcUiEJEWPzbATHgw0iS8WFXLH4qkcLYC2tUeGM13koQ
>>>>          rY926iqJEfnSsmegqWWs4GLYLiNOJQouvkyYDh+ZLUmHBTqSsubDdLXIB0TltnBJitvy
>>>>          B/4Jqbm6LmTXwWFqJEfx7HRMkFn90V71fxGYgvAC5VjWeyHLIOOgG7Vz2Nb1vlQ7DA3j
>>>>          GvEQ==
>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>>>> In-Reply-To: <CAB+pmfMcBS9BP=DqKtF2eisaWQcvTLjok+RhgJqJfMXHE4hZqA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> References: <CAB+pmfMcBS9BP=DqKtF2eisaWQcvTLjok+RhgJqJfMXHE4hZqA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 12:57:39 +0200
>>>> Message-ID: <CAH-PCH526p=QVBHntX6wKfq6Lrka0iB3UP+wOOPgRd32nFk3oQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> From: Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: Auburn Study <sse.auburn.study@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Cc: php-qa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, PHP Internals <internals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff2555e7ce21f04cad50ab5
>>>> Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Buffer Overflow Vulnerability Study at Auburn University
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> regards Helmut K. C. Tessarek
>> lookup http://sks.pkqs.net for KeyID 0xC11F128D
>>
>> /*
>>    Thou shalt not follow the NULL pointer for chaos and madness
>>    await thee at its end.
>> */
>>
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> 
> 
> 

-- 
regards Helmut K. C. Tessarek
lookup http://sks.pkqs.net for KeyID 0xC11F128D

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