Sounds like time for me to move on. Thanks for the info Dan. All the talent on this group, and a bug like this (according to posts I've read) has been going on for years? "Daniel Brown" <danbrown@xxxxxxx> wrote in message news:CAD9cneMicUmusc9Er7kOmLZKL_r-QORoYcMzGH5hQL=e4eRdjg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx... On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 10:39, Jim Giner <jim.giner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Actually, we haven't changed anything at all. It's always been temperamental, but it's always just been a small additional offering. As Ash said, this is a mailing list, not a newsgroup. The fact that we offer a newsgroup interface at all is by all means eligible for discontinuation, since only about six people use it in any given year. -- </Daniel P. Brown> Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php