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Not to discredit this long post but the media here is now calling kids who text often "hypertexting teens" which really irked me even more...

I bet some non-technical news guy thinks he is awesome for coming up with that one.

On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:54 AM, "Daniel P. Brown" <daniel.brown@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 08:51, Robert Cummings <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, that and some Gateway with a Common Interface.
> 
>    My point was that there is now and never was any such PHP project
> known as pre-hypertext preprocessor.  It originated as Personal Home
> Page Tools (PHP Tools) and Forms Interpreter (FI) --- the former was a
> series of C binaries, the latter was a CGI wrapper that actually
> preprocessed straight HTML by hopping in and out of <!--HTML
> Comments--> using SSI.  For a short while, if memory serves me
> correctly, a version of the package was also named Personal Home Page
> Construction Kit.  Eventually the packages merged into PHP/FI, and a
> rewrite was done sometime during 1997, I believe, which became PHP/FI
> 2.0.  I first started using it back in 1996 for quick and simple tasks
> where Perl would be a bit overkill.
> 
>    The part I can't remember clearly is whether PHP/FI2 was done in
> 1996 or 1997, though, because I do remember it was the fall of 1997
> when PHP3 came out, and it blew me away.  It sucked a bit having to
> now learn how to use the new PHP to build a page, but damned if it
> wasn't a trillion times easier to work with than Perl, right from the
> get-go.  I remember being excited by the fact that I could rewrite a
> simple flat-file database Perl program I originally wrote in about
> three days in under two hours with PHP.  From that point on, I was
> hooked on it, despite its quirky recursive-acronym name --- PHP:
> Hypertext Preprocessor.
> 
>    So when I asked if "pre-hypertext preprocessor" meant Perl, it
> could well have been Python, C/C++ on SSI, Tcl/Tk, or anything....
> anything, that is, that came "pre-" PHP.
> 
>    That said, I have seen references to PHP being named
> "Pre-Hypertext Preprocessor," but that would be incorrect anyway.  The
> HTML (HyperText Markup Language) could be preprocessed, so that much
> is fine.... but "pre-hypertext" would be truly amusing.  Any request
> to a web page is presently made via HTTP (HyperText Transfer
> Protocol), and any text displayed on any electronic device with
> embedded references (also known as hyperlinks).
> 
>    So any language that could pre-process pre-hypertext would either
> have the unique ability to foresee the future, the mundane ability to
> "pre-process" plain text (or request headers or anything prior to the
> data being classified as hypertext), or the disconcerting ability to
> modify reality as we know it.  And why bother to do that when you
> could just <%= go elsewhere. %>? ;-P
> 
> 
> 
>    (It's felt like Friday all day.)
> 
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