On 2 July 2010 19:52, Adam Richardson <simpleshot@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:28 PM, <Kirk.Johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> "Bob McConnell" <rvm@xxxxxxxxx> wrote on 07/02/2010 08:53:30 AM: >> >> > > Arguments against using/dismissing the "name" attribute in tags is >> > > simply nonsense. >> > >> > This discussion began when I pointed out that the name attribute is >> > deprecated in XHTML. This was later confirmed when someone pointed to >> > the actual specification at <http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/>, however >> > there may be some confusion about the scope of the change. The >> > applicable section is shown below. Apparently HTML 5 is planning to take >> > a different path. Of course, nobody knows that for sure since the spec >> > is far from complete and will likely be undergoing major changes for >> > several more years. >> > >> > Bob McConnell >> > >> > -----8<------------------------------------------------ >> > 4.10. The elements with 'id' and 'name' attributes >> > >> > HTML 4 defined the name attribute for the elements a, applet, form, >> > frame, iframe, img, and map. HTML 4 also introduced the id attribute. >> > Both of these attributes are designed to be used as fragment >> > identifiers. >> > >> > In XML, fragment identifiers are of type ID, and there can only be a >> > single attribute of type ID per element. Therefore, in XHTML 1.0 the id >> > attribute is defined to be of type ID. In order to ensure that XHTML 1.0 >> > documents are well-structured XML documents, XHTML 1.0 documents MUST >> > use the id attribute when defining fragment identifiers on the elements >> > listed above. See the HTML Compatibility Guidelines for information on >> > ensuring such anchors are backward compatible when serving XHTML >> > documents as media type text/html. >> > >> > Note that in XHTML 1.0, the name attribute of these elements is formally >> > deprecated, and will be removed in a subsequent version of XHTML. >> >> At the risk of injecting a little light into this discussion ;) note the >> list of elements in the excerpt Bob provided: a, applet, form, frame, >> iframe, img, and map. Almost all replies to date have referred to the name >> attribute of the *form elements*: input, select, and textarea. Two >> different sets of elements. >> >> As far as I am concerned, the "authorities" are free to remove the name >> attribute from the first set. I think it is safe to say that the name >> attribute will not be removed from the *form elements* anytime soon. >> >> For all with a holiday coming up this weekend, have a good one! >> >> Kirk > > > Hi Kirk, > > You beat me to it, that's exactly the issue at hand in this debate. Name IS > deprecated (both in newer versions of HTML and XHTML) for those particular > elements: > http://derickrethans.nl/html-name-attribute-deprecated.html > > As Derrick points out on that page, "always read the specs carefully" ;) > That was pointed out more than a day ago ... -- <hype> WWW: http://plphp.dk / http://plind.dk LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/plind BeWelcome/Couchsurfing: Fake51 Twitter: http://twitter.com/kafe15 </hype> -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
