Hey Rob, No. NOLOH actually generates different code for different devices. For example, a browser with JavaScript will get all elements added via DOM, and no actual HTMLis generated, however when the DOM is viewed via Firebug and properties were explicitly assigned to an object, they're translated as inline styles. All the style attributes are determined by the developer you can either use direct object modification, and/or use CSS classes and style sheets. See http://dev.noloh.com/#/articles/NOLOH-and-CSS/ for more information. There's also some information about layout here: http://dev.noloh.com/#/articles/Layout-in-NOLOH/. If you're interested, we recently came back from 2 weeks ago and posted our very informative and instructive screencast of the talk here: http://vimeo.com/10106797. If this is too long for you, we cut it up into topically concise segments here: http://www.youtube.com/user/phpframework#grid/user/C102458C2FFD8ACF Please let us know if there's anything else you're curious about. Regards, Asher Snyder On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Robert Cummings <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote: > I viewed the source on the site like the features suggested I should... > does NOLOH always generate HTML with all those hard embedded style > attributes? > > Cheers, > Rob. > > > > > Asher Snyder wrote: > >> Hello Brandon, >> >> I'm Asher Snyder, one of the developers of NOLOH. Please feel free to >> e-mail >> me with any questions you have. >> >> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Ashley Sheridan >> <ash@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote: >> >> On Sat, 2010-03-27 at 13:21 -0400, Brandon Rampersad wrote: >>> >>> Thank you but i can't find the download on that website. Anyone have >>>> it that can send it to me via an attachment? Thank You >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Ashley Sheridan >>>> <ash@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, 2010-03-27 at 12:18 -0400, Brandon Rampersad wrote: >>>> >>>> > Hello buds, >>>> > >>>> > Anyone have experience with the noloh php framework (noloh) and >>>> >>> knows where >>> >>>> > i can download it? Im not sure if its open source or encrypted. >>>> > >>>> > Thanks >>>> >>>> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=php+noloh >>>> >>>> Searching usually helps, and the first result seems to be the >>>> main website for the framework ;) >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Ash >>>> http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> There's a massive 'Download Now' link that goes to their products >>> page... >>> >>> Ps, you should hit reply to all rather than just reply so that it goes >>> back to the whole list. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ash >>> http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > -- > http://www.interjinn.com > Application and Templating Framework for PHP > -- Asher Snyder Co-founder NOLOH LLC. 347-416-6508 http://www.noloh.com