On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 23:42 +0100, Rene Veerman wrote: > maybe adding a <?php= as equivalent to <?= and <?php echo , > then deprecating <?= would be useful. > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:18 PM, tedd <tedd.sperling@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > At 5:54 PM +0000 3/15/10, Jochem Maas wrote: > >> > >> Op 3/13/10 3:49 PM, Jorge Gomes schreef: > >>> > >>> First of all, i recommend the use of normal php tags (<?php ... ?>) > >>> because > >>> the short tags are atm marked as* **DEPRECATED*. > >> > >> that's a documentation error. > >> > >>> > >>> You should also echo your values to the page, instead using the shortcut > >>> <?= > >>> (stop being a lazy ass! :P): > >> > >> it's not lazy, it's succinct and much easier to read (once you know what > >> it means), > > > > Yes, but like all web languages, they don't live in a vacuum -- they must > > play well with others to survive. Programming is dynamic not static. > > > > While using "<?=" identifies what follows "to you", it doesn't "to others" > > and therein lies the problem. If XML (and possibility others) don't accept > > the short term tag, then why use it? > > > > Using "Standards" like this help promote better communication between all > > languages -- what's wrong with that? Simply put, either communicate better > > or don't -- that's your choice -- but your decision is also a demonstration > > to your client/employer/peers as to your desire to produce the "best" > > possible code. > > > > I look at code containing "<?=" the same way as I see html containing tables > > and embedded styling for presentation -- "This must be old code OR the > > programmer still doesn't get it". > > > > Cheers, > > > > tedd > > > > -- > > ------- > > http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > I think that would just add to an already confusing situation. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk