Paul M Foster wrote: > On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:02:09PM +0000, Nathan Rixham wrote: > >> Manuel Lemos wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> on 02/15/2010 11:37 AM Nathan Rixham said the following: >>>> I need to find a skilled PHP dev, UK based, with long term availability, >>>> in the short term to join me on a project and ultimately be prepared to >>>> take over the project and "own" it. Remote contract work w/ occasional >>>> meetings on site. >>> You may want to try searching PHP professionals with the specific skills >>> you need here: >>> >>> http://www.phpclasses.org/professionals/country/uk/ >>> >>> Or you may want to try to post a job here: >>> >>> http://www.phpclasses.org/jobs/ >>> >> Manuel, >> >> I'm sure there are some very talented people on your site (and in the >> community) - one slight problem though, I won't use you're website under >> any circumstance (been there, done that). >> >> You make every interaction with your site a horrible, painful >> interaction that is purely there to get as many adverts as you can in >> front of people, so that you can bleed every cent possible from the hard >> work and effort of PHP developers and innocent users. In short, you take >> advantage of your users, members and the PHP community - I've never seen >> such a bold and ongoing attempt to profit on the hard work and good will >> of PHP developers, ever, period. > > I've given Manuel a hard time in the past about his site design. But > we'll see what his new design is, when it shows up. > > As for Manuel profiting from the whole thing, I don't see another > busines model working. Source Forge has a similar business model. And > nearly every other Linux publication "profits" from the work of FOSS > developers. The only other popular business model on the FOSS world is a > support-based model, which works for companies with a single product or > a small stable of products. It wouldn't work for phpclasses.org. > > Having to register to download classes from phpclasses.org is a > nuisance. Manuel says this is up to the individual developer. This may > be technically true, but Manuel *offers* this as an option. Contrast > Source Forge, which performs a similar function but does not require any > registration to download anything. I imagine that the registration > allows Manuel to tightly monitor site usage in a variety of ways. > > But I don't know of another, better, resource for PHP code written by > random developers anywhere. I'm willing to give his site a plug when > someone can't find a class they need. If I had worthy classes, I'd > upload them there myself. I can't really blame Manuel for promoting the > site. It's his job. > > As for the jobs and other aspects of the site, I can't say. I don't use > them. > > Paul > I won't write a lengthy post, but I'll second some of what Paul has said. phpclasses has been around for a while and has provided a collection of quite a few very nice classes before there was really any PHP framework to speak of. Manuel has authored most of them and many other people have their own nice collection there. I haven't ever used one of the classes, but I have downloaded several in the past that performed functions that I wasn't very familiar with and used them as a learning guide and inspiration for my own code. I don't have a problem with the profits. People submit their code because they want to, and well, ads are part of most sites now days, sf included. The only slightly negative thing that I can say is that I have never seen a post by Manuel on this list actually contributing a solution, recommendation or any type of help other than a link to phpclasses. -- Thanks! -Shawn http://www.spidean.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
