On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM, tedd <tedd.sperling@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > At 4:45 PM -0400 5/14/09, Andrew Ballard wrote: >> >> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Paul M Foster <paulf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> > My stance is, if you're going to subscribe to an email list, learn how >>> >>> to unsubscribe, how to see if you've been inadvertantly unsubscribed, >> >> > learn email netiquette on lists, etc. >> >> I agree with you for the most part. I'm just saying that the presence >> of unsubscribe information in the message headers themselves is of >> very little value to most people. > > > Andrew: > > I'm sure you don't disagrees, but I side with Paul with this clarification: > People who subscribe to this list do not fall in to the "most" people > category. (proof -- think of Rob) :-) I agree, but I've subscribed and unsubscribed to a number of lists over the years, and I never knew anything about the unsubscribe headers for mailing list messages until someone mentioned them on this list. As such, I would never have looked there for information on how to unsubscribe. > One must have some idea of what this list is about before subscribing to it. > It's a deliberate act wherein the person has to travel from nonsubscriber to > subscriber where along the way they are presented with information for them > to read and agree as to what you are doing AND how to undo it. One would think. ;-) I know that at least part of the problem is that mailing lists vary so much depending on the software they use and the options specified by the list owners/managers. Andrew -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php