On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 23:42 +0000, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > > I hate div'itis as well. Some people seem to think it's a big faux pas > to use table tags now, when that couldn't be more wrong. Use tables for > tabular data, CSS for the rest (with as few exceptions - and there are > always some eh - as you can manage.) I've seen people try to rebuild a > table of data, that you might represent in a spreadsheet, as a > collection of div's. Bad form, as the data has now lost all meaning. > This is the same as replacing all your <h1> tags with <div > class="header1"> or <strong> with <span class="bold">. Silly idea, slap > on the wrist, don't do it again. > > Personally, CSS is my preferred way of working now. I can define a whole > bunch of elements, semantically as possible, and then can redefine the > look as often as I wish afterwards with CSS. Look at the CSS Zen Garden > if you don't believe how useful this is. Rather than going through a > bunch of page to replaces tables, or PHP code to change the output > layout, you can redefine your CSS to alter the look. It's not a black > art, it just needs a little practise. Remember how bad we all were when > we first started using HTML? It's exactly the same thing here! I thought I'd dredge up this old, old topic to add some comments about some recent stuff I did since this thread (or many similar to it) were in the back of mind. Specifically I was creating a new look and feel for my MUD hobby website and I wanted to make use of lots of PNG images with alpha transparency. Additionally I wanted variable width. I felt tables were the best approach for this because div based sliding door techniques and multi-level div containers don't work when the alpha transparency will reveal the underlying sliding or container background. I just don't think I could accomplish the same results using divs and floats. http://www.wocmud.org/welcome.php Comments? Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php