Hey guys, Just trying to catch up to the rest of the world again. Prob wont be able to read all the php mail. Just one thing: Maybe PHP should be renamed to PFP (PHP Free Processor) or something. A recursive acronym sort of suggests that you cannot be free or break out of this infinite loop. What do you think? It could introduce another variable call it $f (for FREE of course, nothing else you dirty minded people), you get the idea. Btw donations on my website are not abused, but rediculously low. I was planning to make my CSV to SQL program free software, but without donations im afraid ill have to fight a court case with the guy who owns me. i love diet coke or coke zero is even better. advertisement not intended. Cheers, Tim Tim-Hinnerk Heuer http://www.ihostnz.com Samuel Goldwyn<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/samuel_goldwyn.html> - "A wide screen just makes a bad film twice as bad."