Re: Clarity needed

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Jochem Maas wrote:
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>
> Shawn McKenzie schreef:
>> Jochem Maas wrote:
>>> Daniel Brown schreef:
>>>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 07:56, Jochem Maas
>>>> <jochem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> and the answer to you Q, like everyone else said: yup :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> PS - given you unlimited resources you might consider doing a
>>>>>  charitable donation to FoxNews aficionados :-)
>>>> Or reminding you how to speak English, Jochem.  What the hell
>>>> are you trying to say here?!? ;-P
>>> that tedd's unlimited educational resources (tutors/courses)
>>> might go someway to undoing all the harm Fox News inflicts on the
>>>  masses.
>>>
>>>> Man, a guy disappears for a while and his speech goes to
>>>> gibberish almost as bad as my own.  ;-P
>>> almost :-P
>>>
>>>
>> Or fox may go someway towards dulling the socialist propaganda of
>> the tutors/courses.
>
> I didn't assume any particular leaning on the part of the education
> resource in question ... merely that to count as education I would
> require ciriculum to foster peoples ability to
> question/analyse/research for *themselves*, but heck, why bother when
>  Bill O'Reilly can do it for you right?

Bill is a dumb-ass.  I wasn't talking about editorial or commentary,
which is expected to be biased.  I was talking about unbiased news
reporting.

>
>> We're headed there, but thank God I'm not schreefing from an
>> insanely socialist country!  :-)
>
> ir dismissive to call something insane just because you either don't
> understand it or don't agree with it.

No , insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting a
different result, i.e. socialism.

> not to mention that my country 'boasts' a rather wide spectrum
> political viewpoints, many of which are hardly socialist.

On one point I apologize, though NL is still European socialism, I
misinterpreted schreef as German! :-(

> ... and it certainly wasn't socialists that shipped countless slaves
> from Africa to America ... but the culprits we're often dutch.
>
> oh and here's a bit of Socialist Doctrine: "We hold these truths to
> be self-evident, that all men are created equal ..."

Well, if you change it up a bit, like "We hold these truths to be self
evident, that it is the government's responsibility to attempt to make
all men equal." then I would agree.

> not that I'm much of a socialist, mainly because i think all politics
>  is inherently bogus - just a bigpile of strawmen, but wait ...
> capitalism ... that's working out a treat isn't it (in a "gonna make
> the 'Great Depression' look like a day in park" kind of way).

Yes, I am down on all politicians as well, however, capitalism works
great.  What you are seeing now is socialist engineering of the
capitalist market, starting with mildly socialist Clinton, moderately to
very socialist Bush and then of course hard leftist Obama.  The world
economy is bolted onto the U.S. economy because European Socialism
doesn't work.  We're all in for a miserable time as European style
socialism takes root and spreads across the U.S.

> with regard to capitalism, were do you think the staple concepts and
>  structures came from? 13th century europe, specifically the
> 'lowlands', not to mention the AEX (now Euronext), which is generally
>  considered to be the oldest formal stock exchange.

If by lowlands you mean Scotland, then yes I agree.  :-)

> ... so stick that in your pipe and smoke it ... oh wait you can't,
> which is why there's a constant stream of planes touching down here,
>  full of yanks gagging to get shitfaced.

I would be happy if those yanks stayed there permanently :-)  I handle
my problems by dealing with them, so no need to toke them away.

I was just taking a playful stab at you earlier.  Not trying to piss you
off!

-Shawn

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