I use GIT and Subversion. Subversion is still a bit hard to use (branching etc) and not distributed but that was before i knew about GIT :-P. You have a central repository that you need to commit to and it's still quite CVS like (which is really confusing and horrible). GIT is nice and fast and also works in a distributed environment. So, it's great when you are the only one working on it or even if you have developers that don't always have broadband and want to commit to the central repository (when they are connected). It also has a windows port that is reasonably easy to install. Check out the cygwin unix on windows port library. It's great when you want the best of both worlds. Git is a package that you can select in there. I use windows at work and cygwin for all the unix stuff i want to do in windows, like perl, bash etc. It's awesome! Spending $150 on this is not really worth it i think and using a database for version control seems a bit odd. They have a database internally anyway which is optimised for the purpose and stored as files. Databases store the data as files (on disk) as well and only have the benefit that some of the data is stored partially in memory (indeces etc) and speeds up data retrieval (and i believe writing it too)... So give GIT a go. It also has a windows shell extension called 'Git Extensions'. Although you might like the GUI stuff, i think it's a lot easier to fire up a console (cmd or bash) and write git init git add . git commit -a -m "your msg" >From then on, you just have to type: git commit -a -m "your msg" to make commits. There is lots of help for it on the web which you wont get with a proprietary solution. In general Open Source seems to have better support than closed source (simply because there are a lot more people who are willing to help because they want to and not because they get paid). You can create a central repository relatively easy too and push/pull your commits to your local repository ( http://toolmantim.com/articles/setting_up_a_new_remote_git_repository ). You can also use one of the many repositories out there if you don't want to take care of backups etc. BTW, what do you need incremental backups for in a versioning system? A versioning system is an incremental backup (an advanced one)! You might want to backup the whole repository to a different location but you can safely overwrite that. I think Linus Torwalds did a really good job on that :-). Hail Linus (lol). It's versioning as easy as it can get. Hope this helps someone. Regards, Tim Tim-Hinnerk Heuer http://www.ihostnz.com On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:06 PM, TG <tg-php@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > So, for my purposes.. after trying a handful of solutions.. open source and > commercial.. I think I've decided that Reliable Software's "Code Co-op" > is what's going to work best for me. > > My trial is almost up, so as soon as my next paycheck comes, I think I'll > be purchasing the full version for $150. > > For me, it's totally worth it. It stores everything in a local database, > but allows collaboration if that's what you're into. Via email for the > $150 version, via LAN for the $200 version. > > It lets me add files by type, is easy to check out files. Anyway.. if > anyone's looking for an easy Windows version control system, check it out. > > (no, I don't work for them, just passing along the recommendation since I'm > digging this software) > > Thanks for all the input! > > -TG > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "TG" <tg-php@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: php-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:40:23 -0500 > Subject: Question about version control.. sorta.. > > > Ok.. so I know about CVS and SVN and unfortunately haven't had as much > > experience with them as I'd like. I've used them, but always in a really > > basic sense and always on systems that have already been set up. A > friend > > recently mentioned GIT ( http://git.or.cz/ ) too. > > > > But here's my situation.. I deal with dozens of clients. I usually make > a > > backup copy of their site (at least the files, not usually the DB) so I > > have the latest copy of the site to make changes to. Usually I'm the > only > > one working on the site, but sometimes other people may make changes too. > > > Not so often than we're conflicting with our changes, or if this is a > known > > issue, we make sure to coordinate. > > > > What I'd ideally like to do is be able to use a CVS type system to keep > > incremental backups of the code. So instead of checking code out of CVS, > > changing it, then checking it back in... I'd like to just do a mass > checkin > > of the whole site and have changes recorded and the ability to look at > > previous versions with DIFF and all that. And of course the ability to > > 'check out' a previous set of files by date or revision maybe. > > > > > > I assume you can do this with one of the major version control systems, > but > > mostly what I see with how to use these systems involves checking code > out > > then checking it back in. That's not really what I want to do. > > > > The other issue is that I run Windows. So if there's something nice and > > WinGUI, that'd be nice. Please no "you should be running linux" > > responses. I don't have anything against Linux or Mac, they're great > > systems. But I have my reasons for running Windows. > > > > Also, I realize this is semi-OT for a PHP list, but asking on a CVS list > or a > > SVN list might not give me the more comprehensive/broad experience base > I'm > > looking for. I'd like a semi-unbiased response. :) > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > -TG > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >
