> are you really ever in a situation where some HTML weenie is coding > HTML pages and you're somewhere else doing the PHP work? Yes. I have been there several times, and am there now. In a well-run organization with good communication and a decent framework, it works out well. Otherwise, it's quite bad, but probably not as bad as the total chaos of not trying to do it right at all. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php