> -----Original Message----- > From: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis [mailto:bhawkeslewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 4:15 PM > To: Richard Heyes > Cc: php List > Subject: Re: IE8 and HTML5 > > Richard Heyes wrote: > > From a recent IEBlog post: > > > > http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/12/03/compatibility-view- > improvements-to-come-in-ie8.aspx > > > >> ...and our start on HTML5 support. > > > > Does this mean canvas support? > > Not in IE8. > > http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/11/19/ie8-what-s-after-beta- > 2.aspx#9129600 > > Everyone has their favorite unstandardized feature they'd love IE to > support. (Personally I'd be delighted by -ms-border-radius and > content:uri() support.) > > Experimental support for Canvas and other unstandardized features might > be a good thing; I know the spec editors would welcome implementor > feedback. It would be a shame, however, if we were locked into a > technically poor solution thanks to the most popular browser > implementing an early version of the specification, websites beginning > to rely on that behaviour, and subsequent versions of the specification > being forced to mandate such behaviour. I haven't used Canvas much, but > it seems to me there a lot of areas of Canvas where there's room for > further evolution, e.g. proper text width calculations? an accessible > Canvas example? what about 3D? > > > Is it as a direct result of Chrome > > being released and MS realising (finally) they are going to have to > > remain competitive? > > Given Chrome's poor rate of take-up and tendency to canibalize the > userbases of non-MS browsers, I somewhat doubt it. > > http://blog.statcounter.com/2008/09/chrome-whos-losing/ > > Regardless of Chrome's technical merits, it seems to me that it's > Firefox's growing userbase, tailed by the other popular browsers in > some > markets, that has long represented the market challenge to IE. > > http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/stat.htm > > Could be I'm underestimating the effects of press hype about chrome on > MS's strategy, but I think actually Microsoft's turn towards a stronger > emphasis on standards support long preceded the release of Chrome. For > example: > > http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/03/03/microsoft-s- > interoperability-principles-and-ie8.aspx > > Given that IE8 was already in beta when Chrome was released, standard > support in IE8 is mostly a product of decisions taken before that time. Well, as far as <canvas /> in IE, you can fake it with Javascript: http://me.eae.net/archive/2005/12/29/canvas-in-ie/ Yes, this is another patchwork circumvention routine to drag IE, kicking and screaming, into the world of web browsing that exists outside of Quirks Mode... but it works. HTH, // Todd -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
