On 8/19/2008 4:53 PM India Time, _metastable_ wrote:
There are many channels out there that would be beneficial to your
goals, e.g. wendo, ogone and the likes.
Please take your commercial goals there.
Oh, like ODesk?
I wouldn't be able to pay that kind of King's ransoms the developers
over there are charging.
I thought that if I look in help ngs where veterans are already
providing voluntary help, they might not mind if I manage to pay a
humble amount for their tips for correcting or even developing a crucial
cryptic part of my code.
Actually, I had seen, especially in Java groups, threads like:
http://groups.google.co.in/group/comp.lang.java.help/browse_thread/thread/7b610ded8e22098f/8d083f8ff374f4b0?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=paypal#8d083f8ff374f4b0
Email Java tutor needed! $20 each homework!
http://groups.google.co.in/group/comp.lang.java.gui/browse_thread/thread/afb2cca2c29d5b03/d0fe80666226af6f?hl=en&lnk=st&q=JAVA+PAYPAL#d0fe80666226af6f
get $10 through paypal upon finishing this small java prgram..1st come
1st win
http://groups.google.co.in/group/comp.lang.java.help/browse_thread/thread/ed2007c157e55cde/7b34426e63f07520?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=paypal#7b34426e63f07520
Will Pay $50 for help on Java swing project
http://groups.google.co.in/group/comp.lang.java.help/browse_thread/thread/71baa9425c6f56ce/c597a93e0a526c0e?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=paypal#c597a93e0a526c0e
Please help me
In the last thread above, members helped a person, and then, this is a part:
Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.help
From: Andrew Thompson <SeeMySi...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 17:25:25 GMT
Subject: Re: Please help me
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 17:25:33 +0100, april wrote:
> I have just had a look at the sites listed but could not find anywhere
> to dontate some cash. Do you have a paypal account and prehaps then I
> could do it that way
Sure do,
<http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ >
the 'Make a Donation' button is hidden
over on the left, below the menu...
(Tah!)
--
Andrew Thompson
http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite
http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help
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> Oh yeah now I see it. Sorry its not going to be mega amounts of money as
> I really can not afford it right now so please understand. Sorry I can
> not afford more.
Make no apologies April, and thank you.
With the two donations I have received recently
(1 from a student in Ireland) I now have almost
half what the *huge* ads on my site have earned
over 4 months!
All the best with your new Java
enabled browser, April. Take care. :-)
--end
So, I thought that I might also utilize similar help against humble
payments.
No, it is not my school homework. I don't study - I mean, not any more. :-)
I am a surviving dinosaur of DOS/GWBasic/ Pascal/ Fortran/ Cobol/
dBASEIII/ foxpro and unix days when windows and Linux were not born. I
am (was) a master of procedural languages but then my ratbrain couldn't
grasp 4GLs if you know that early 90s term.
I then learned HTML and bits of Perl, Java and Javascript, but I get
scared by their vastness and can do only elementary half page coding in
them.
I work by freelancing - bidding and getting jobs on net sites, getting
paid for them. My own areas are Translation, Transcription, MS Office,
Excel, HTML. But, nowadays nothing is working in isolation. e.g., go to
that site, extract 200 pages of data, only this-this-this fields, save
that in csv file and open that in excel, do such and such processing on
this and this field of the data and arrange the results in such format,
convert that to pdf and send the pdf to me. whoosh!
Stumbling blocks:
- foxpro 2.6 has been rendered obsolete even by its makers. I had never
even looked into its Visual counterpart.
- perl is manageable, but PerlScript doesn't work in Firefox.
- PerlScript is working in ie, but greasemonkey ready scripts and ff's
wealth of extensions don't work in ie.
- I have been told that JavaScript is not able to save things on hdd.
so on. Wherever I start, something comes up that stumps me and I loose
another project.
I was surprised to see PHP becoming increasing popular for web related
work. Clients are mentioning php by name. I thought that I could manage
it with my Perl/ CGI bits of knowledge. I installed win WAMP Server 2.0
and everything else is working fine but php refused to work on my box.
Even if it starts working, i wouldn't be able to become a master of it
overnight. I inquired about command line processor or javascript like
shell of php, but seems there are none.
Why not ask for unpaid help here?
Well, the usual culture in techy ng-s/ ml-s is NO-SPOONFEEDING. If I ask
questions here, members would surely help me but would ask me to read
such and such webpage or manual and tryout this and that command. When
the client is sitting on my head through the other end of chat window
threatening to cancel the project and even forfeit expert guarantee
amount committed by me, I can't say, wait, I am learning.
I thought I could find some persons to help me against humble payments.
I could get some tips from them on cryptic parts of of JavaScript, Perl,
PHP, etc. that I can't yet manage. Then, I would be able to do projects
needing interfacing with these also. The missing part of the puzzle.
I just needed one person - or 2 or 3 just because of timeline
differences, who could give me tips/ algorithms/ commands to develop my
code, and if I still can't get it working - to check my code and tell
the problem line point blank or may be correct it. Payment would be
small and made then and there - irrespective of whether or I I get paid
by my client in due course or not. In all probability, due to repeated
interactions with same persons, a periodic cycle will get formed when I
pay a variable or fixed retainership fee weekly, etc.
And how much can I cheat you if I promise to pay for help and don't pay
you afterwards? $5? $10? $20? You wouldn't go broke on not getting such
amounts and i would loose my credibility and none of you would help me
on my next question and I stop getting further project.
There are bigger projects also that I come to know of but I don't touch
them as I know I wouldn't be able to clinch them even with help here. If
the persons who would have helped me felt that they can do such
development, I could forward such projects to them as such projects are
of no use for me. Thus, my humble payments would get partly supplemented
by the earnings they would do through such developments.
--
If the suggestion of help against payment is really so offending to you
guys, my sincere apologies.
Stijn
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V
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