> > with this code if a user hits the space bar once or couple > of times as > > a matter of fact there are no characters entered by the > user i do not > > want this to happen, if a user simply hits the spacebar and > does not > > type anything i should be able to display an alert message. One thing you might consider is, first of all, there are many characters which do not print and spaces are one of them, but from a computer standpoint they are characters, tabs and new lines are some others, the list goes on. For this specific case you can trim the results and that often will eliminate most of these if they appear at either end of what was typed, in this case the entire thing. If(trim($_POST["textareaname"]) == "") echo "You didn't type anything significant!"; HTH, Warren Vail -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php