Re: Re: optimilize web page loading

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On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Peter Ford <pete@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Jason Pruim wrote:
>  >
>  > On Mar 27, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Shawn McKenzie wrote:
>  >> Al wrote:
>  >>> Good point.  I usually do use the single quotes, just happened to key
>  >>> doubles for the email.
>  >>>
>  >>> Actually, it's good idea for all variable assignments.
>  >>>
>  >>> Philip Thompson wrote:
>  >>>> On Mar 26, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Al wrote:
>  >>>>> Depends on the server and it's load.  I've strung together some
>  >>>>> rather large html strings and they aways take far less time than the
>  >>>>> transient time on the internet. I used to use OB extensively until
>  >>>>> one day I took the time to measure the difference. I don't recall the
>  >>>>> numbers; but, I do recall it was not worth the slight extra trouble
>  >>>>> to use OB.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Now, I simple assemble by html strings with $report .= "foo"; And
>  >>>>> then echo $report at the end. It also makes the code very easy to
>  >>>>> read and follow.
>  >>>>
>  >>>> You might as well take it a step further. Change the above to:
>  >>>>
>  >>>> $report .= 'foo';
>  >>>>
>  >>>> This way for literal strings, the PHP parser doesn't have to evaluate
>  >>>> this string to determine if anything needs to be translated (e.g.,
>  >>>> $report .= "I like to $foo"). A minimal speedup, but nonetheless...
>  >>>>
>  >>>> ~Philip
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>>> Andrew Ballard wrote:
>  >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Al <news@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  >>>>>>> You are really asking an HTML question, if you think about it.
>  >>>>>>>
>  >>>>>>> At the PHP level, either use output buffering or assemble all your
>  >>>>>>> html string as a variable and
>  >>>>>>> then echo it.  The goal is to compress the string into the minimum
>  >>>>>>> number of packets.
>  >>>>>> Yes, but do so smartly. Excessive string concatenation can slow
>  >>>>>> things
>  >>>>>> down as well. On most pages you probably won't notice much
>  >>>>>> difference,
>  >>>>>> but I have seen instances where the difference was painfully obvious.
>  >>>>>> Andrew
>  >>
>  >> Yes and if your script takes .00000000000000000000000000000002 seconds
>  >> to run using double quotes it will only take
>  >> .000000000000000000000000000000019 seconds with single (depending upon
>  >> how many quotes you have of course)  :-)
>  >
>  > I'm coming in late to this thread so sorry if I missed this :)
>  >
>  > How much of a difference would it make if you have something like this:
>  > echo "$foo bar bar bar bar $foo $foo"; verses: echo $foo . "bar bar bar
>  > bar" . $foo $foo; ?In other words... You have a large application which
>  > is most likely to be faster? :)
>  >
>  >
>
>  There was a discussion about this a few weeks ago - ISTR that the compiler does
>  wierd things with double-quoted strings, something like tokenising the words and
>  checking each bit for lurking variables.
>  So in fact
>
>
>    echo "$foo bar bar bar bar $foo $foo";
>
>  is slowest (because there *are* variables to interpolate,
>
>
>    echo $foo . " bar bar bar bar ".$foo." ".$foo;
>
>  is a bit faster, but the double-quoted bits cause some slow-down,
>
>
>    echo $foo . ' bar bar bar bar '.$foo.' '.$foo;
>
>  is a bit faster again - the single quoted bits pass through without further
>  inspection, and finally
>
>
>    echo $foo,' bar bar bar bar ',$foo,' ',$foo;
>
>  is actually the fastest, because the strings are not concatenated before output.
>
>  I think that was the overall summary - I can't locate the original post to
>  verify (or attribute) but it's in this list somewhere...
>
>  Cheers
>
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Can you prove these statements with real benchmarks that are current?
Ilia said that it is a myth that there is a performance difference
between " and ' in one of his talks.

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