Re: Re: optimilize web page loading

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Shawn McKenzie wrote:
> Jason Pruim wrote:
>> On Mar 27, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Shawn McKenzie wrote:
>>> Al wrote:
>>>> Good point.  I usually do use the single quotes, just happened to key
>>>> doubles for the email.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, it's good idea for all variable assignments.
>>>>
>>>> Philip Thompson wrote:
>>>>> On Mar 26, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Al wrote:
>>>>>> Depends on the server and it's load.  I've strung together some
>>>>>> rather large html strings and they aways take far less time than the
>>>>>> transient time on the internet. I used to use OB extensively until
>>>>>> one day I took the time to measure the difference. I don't recall the
>>>>>> numbers; but, I do recall it was not worth the slight extra trouble
>>>>>> to use OB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, I simple assemble by html strings with $report .= "foo"; And
>>>>>> then echo $report at the end. It also makes the code very easy to
>>>>>> read and follow.
>>>>> You might as well take it a step further. Change the above to:
>>>>>
>>>>> $report .= 'foo';
>>>>>
>>>>> This way for literal strings, the PHP parser doesn't have to evaluate
>>>>> this string to determine if anything needs to be translated (e.g.,
>>>>> $report .= "I like to $foo"). A minimal speedup, but nonetheless...
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Philip
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrew Ballard wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Al <news@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>> You are really asking an HTML question, if you think about it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At the PHP level, either use output buffering or assemble all your
>>>>>>>> html string as a variable and
>>>>>>>> then echo it.  The goal is to compress the string into the minimum
>>>>>>>> number of packets.
>>>>>>> Yes, but do so smartly. Excessive string concatenation can slow
>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>> down as well. On most pages you probably won't notice much
>>>>>>> difference,
>>>>>>> but I have seen instances where the difference was painfully obvious.
>>>>>>> Andrew
>>> Yes and if your script takes .00000000000000000000000000000002 seconds
>>> to run using double quotes it will only take
>>> .000000000000000000000000000000019 seconds with single (depending upon
>>> how many quotes you have of course)  :-)
>> I'm coming in late to this thread so sorry if I missed this :)
>>
>> How much of a difference would it make if you have something like this:
>> echo "$foo bar bar bar bar $foo $foo"; verses: echo $foo . "bar bar bar
>> bar" . $foo $foo; ?In other words... You have a large application which
>> is most likely to be faster? :)
>>
>>
>>>
>>> -Shawn
>>>
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>> Jason Pruim
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>>
>>
> I would assume your 2 examples to be the same because the point is that
> the PHP interpreter must parse for vars to substitute when it encounters
> double-quotes whether there are any vars in it or not.  With
> single-quotes the interpreter does not have to worry about it.
> Regardless, the speed diff is probably negligible, hence my flame
> inviting post. :-)
> 
> -Shawn

Actually: echo $foo . "bar bar bar bar" . $foo $foo;
Should be: echo $foo . "bar bar bar bar" . $foo . " " . $foo;

So this would be 'slower' because there are 2 separate instances of
double-quotes for the interpreter to parse for vars.

-Shawn

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