hi people, hi Stut! Stut mentioned a little while back that he avoids using the built-in session mechanism if at all possible, but still manages to track user state ... now I can think of a way or two that he might do that but I was wondering if any one could give an idea about the write way to do it in terms of high performance :-) tia, Jochem -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php