Nathan Rixham wrote: > Shawn McKenzie wrote: >> Ryan A wrote: >>> Add my vote too for Smarty.... >>> HTH, >>> -R >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! >>> Search. >>> http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping >> >> I like smarty and it's very powerful, however what you find is that it's >> just a less capable replacement for PHP. If I want conditional >> statements to display HTML and/or loop through arrays, why would I want >> to do it in smarty tags? Instead of moving display away from logic, it >> just replaces the logic with a different language. When I use templates >> I pretty much want variable substitution. My next project I'll probably >> use HTML files with little bits of PHP echos etc... sprinkled throughout. >> >> -Shawn > > re: If I want conditional statements to display HTML and/or loop through > arrays, why would I want to do it in smarty tags? > > Things are very different when there are a team of varyingly skilled > people on the job, do you really want a junior designer going in and > changing bits of a php application, when you could limit the damage to a > smarty template? > > further; the font end smarty language is definately needed; concider > > {if $articles} > {*loop through articles and show in table *} > {else} > {* show no articles message *} > {/if} > > in my opinion, being able to dump that kind of ultra simple logic onto > the designers makes: > 1: my life much easier > 2: my php files much neater > 3: my code my "own domain" without worrying about random comments and > breakages from designers > 4: the designers happier as they have more freedom and power to control > the display, without having to worry > > final note: > personally I output every script to a suitably named .tpl file with a > single line {debug} - job done I understand, but my point that I didn't make earlier is that I know PHP so I use that. Designers that I work with don't know PHP and don't know smarty and have no desire to know. They know graphic design and HTML. So I would rather give them some meaningful tags to insert somewhere in their HTML. Actually moving the logic out of the presentation/design. So instead of article.tpl: {if $articles} {*loop through articles and show in table *} {else} {* show no articles message *} {/if} I prefer to do this in my article.php: if($articles) { include('article.html'); //or optionally file_get_contents() and do replace on tags }else{ return; } And let the designer have his article.html: <table> <tr> <td><?php echo $something; ?></td> <!-- or {something} that is replaced with echo $something; --> </tr> </table> -Shawn -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
