Re: Re: Question about development

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---- Jason Pruim <japruim@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> 
> On Feb 12, 2008, at 1:03 PM, Nathan Rixham wrote:
> 
> > Jason Pruim wrote:
> >> Hi Everyone,
> >> I know this isn't 100% on topic... But when is any post to this  
> >> list 100% on topic? :)
> >> I've been doing some googling trying to find info on how to plan  
> >> for what a website needs. Stuff like Does it need a forum, live  
> >> support, database driven etc. etc. Does anyone have a form that  
> >> they use to give to the client asking them to outline some ideas  
> >> that they have about the website?
> >> What I'm looking for is something that I could give to a potential  
> >> client and ask them to describe some basic aspects of their target  
> >> audience, a rough idea of what they want it to look like, or at  
> >> least other sites that they like. Stuff like that..
> >> Even if you don't have such a form, I'm sure you all have standard  
> >> questions you ask each client before giving a quote :)
> >> Anyone want to share with the class?
> >> If there is interest, I may even put it together on a webpage to  
> >> help future people :)
> >> -- 
> >> Jason Pruim
> >> Raoset Inc.
> >> Technology Manager
> >> MQC Specialist
> >> 3251 132nd ave
> >> Holland, MI, 49424
> >> www.raoset.com
> >> japruim@xxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > I always take the simple approach, ask them what they want to  
> > achieve/expect from the website. Then verbally work backwards with  
> > them to figure out what the website needs in order to reach the  
> > clients goal.
> >
> > (personally) In all honesty I'd stay away from any kind of form, as  
> > they'll just pick "nice to have" boxes and end up with something  
> > overpriced, not suited to there needs and you'll get complaints in 6  
> > months time.
> >
> > hope that makes sense!
> >
> > ps: the only thing I've found useful that way after many years, is  
> > to make the base site structure with very short text descriptions on  
> > each page + links to the next page | and for god sake, leave the  
> > "home" page will very very last!
> >
> > Nathan
> 
> Hey Nathan,
> 
> Thanks for the reply.  I'm just getting more and more into freelance  
> web work and have my first client asking for a quote. Before now, it's  
> all been internal applications, and the companies website that I have  
> worked on. Nothing for other people.
> 
> I was actually thinking that the form would be for me to make sure I  
> covered the basics... I'm alot better if I have something written down  
> and I can ask the client "Do you need to support multiple languages?"  
> Which to me then, would lead me into using a database[1] for storing  
> the pages and using browser sniffing to find out what language  
> preference they currently had selected to display in that language :)
> 
> 
> [1] As I was typing this I realized that maybe a database isn't the  
> best idea for that, but it's the only way I can think of. Anyone who  
> wants to give me another option is more then welcome to do so!
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Jason Pruim
> Raoset Inc.
> Technology Manager
> MQC Specialist
> 3251 132nd ave
> Holland, MI, 49424
> www.raoset.com
> japruim@xxxxxxxxxx <--Email and Googletalk/Jabber IM ID.
> 
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I generally ask people what they are looking to do with the site.  Are they just wanting to have an image out there, do they want a contact form, do they want to sell something, do they really care to translate it (blowfish), 

Then I go into how much $$$ do they want to spend, do they want to update it themselves, how they have worked on it in the past, etc.

Generally that alone gives me a good base point.  But I'm scatter-brained enough that I just write things down as we talk and that leads me to more questions to ask them.  :)

Wolf

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