Robert Cummings wrote: > On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 16:21 -0500, tedd wrote: >> At 3:35 PM -0500 12/12/07, Robert Cummings wrote: >>> On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 13:16 -0500, tedd wrote: >>>> At 10:17 AM -0500 12/12/07, Robert Cummings wrote: >>>> > > In my ancient past I worked with a x-ray detector and we simply >>>> >> truncated to the tens digit -- that was pretty random. >>>> > >>>> >Random seeming you mean. As mentioned in the original post, just because >>>> >the timeline and sample space is immense doesn't make it random, it just >>>> >makes it difficult to guess. In fact, someone already mentioned the case >>>> >of computers in casinos that can predict the landing spot of a roulette >>>> >ball. >>>> >>>> Just because someone said it, doesn't mean it's true. >>>> >>>> I remember in the old days where they used roulette wheels to >>>> generate random lists. >>> Seemingly random lists... We haven't proven random yet ;) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Rob. >> Yeah, but we haven't proven order yet either. :-) > > Order exists all around us. I only need to look around me to see the > order that exists. A desk, a table, the structure of crystals, etc, etc. > Random on the other hand is the one to be proven. I look around and I > can also see disorder, but is it random, or is it just messy order. THAT > is the question. bla bla bla. neither can ever be proven. proof implies objective truth, given that everything is subjectively experienced there can be no proof ... one could wander into the realms of spirituality and presume for one moment there is a single, indivisible self-realized entity which I would suggest presupposes that neither order nor randomness nor chaos exists .. in order to have any of those requires more than one entity to be present. now the fact that *you* percieve this one indivisible, self-realised entity as fragmented ... is your problem. :-) personally I think you should waste less time on such things and take your wife out for dinner or something ;-) rgds, Jochem PS - Rob, Tedd ... thanks for all the fish! > > Cheers, > Rob. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
