Re: bank query and curl

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2007. 11. 17, szombat keltezéssel 23.15-kor Stut ezt írta:
> admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > WHY! Would you even want to pull that data first off? 
> > It would be out dated as of the next transaction anyway.
> > Secondly if you can curl the data from the server, and get your account
> > information! I suggest you change banks.
> 
> With that attitude you'll end up keeping your money under your bed. 
> Anything my browser can do curl can do.

hmm, my bank won't let me access my account with only a browser. it uses
some additional authentication, either by sms or by card reader.

greets
Zoltán Németh

> 
> > Bad decision I think to make this attempt. 
> 
> Why? If Ronald decides to access *his* account using a method other than 
> a browser, what is he doing wrong? The only downside to it is if he's 
> storing his authentication credentials somewhere so it can be an 
> automated process. Aside from that possibility I don't see the bad here.
> 
> > You can bet I will be watching your networks for an attempt on
> > authentication failures.
> > Because that request does not sound RIGHT to me.
> > 
> > inetnum: 59.124.0.0 - 59.127.255.255
> > netname: HINET-NET
> > country: TW
> > descr: CHTD, Chunghwa Telecom Co.,Ltd.
> > descr: Data-Bldg.6F, No.21, Sec.21, Hsin-Yi Rd.
> > descr: Taipei Taiwan 100
> > 
> > 
> > Interland, Inc. MAXIM-NETBLK-1 (NET-216-65-0-0-1) 
> > 216.65.0.0 - 216.65.127.255
> > Poke Internet Services MAX-CUSTNET-348 (NET-216-65-86-0-1) 
> > 216.65.86.0 - 216.65.86.255
> 
> Wow. Look everyone, he knows how to look up the owner of an IP address. 
> Phear his mad sysadmin skillz!
> 
> Seriously, I highly doubt Ronald is going to try anything against your 
> systems. Just curious about something... what would you do if he did try 
> something? Call your mother and have a little cry?
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ronald Wiplinger [mailto:ronald@xxxxxxxxx] 
> > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 11:38 PM
> > To: PHP General list
> > Subject:  bank query and curl
> > 
> > I have a bank account and would like to query the last transactions.
> > 
> > I can do that now via web and think that I can convert this procedure to
> > a list of curl requests and finally put the result into a database on my
> > server.
> > Fortunately this bank account does not allow transactions, just viewing
> > the account.
> > 
> > Is there a guide available how to start this project?
> 
> I would suggest the curl documentation. In order to duplicate what a 
> browser does you basically just need to make sure you persist cookies 
> between requests. Depending on what the site you're accessing does it 
> may not be particularly trivial to do this. You may end up needing to 
> parse each page that's returned to get the right URL to use for the next 
> request, but it shouldn't get any more complicated than that.
> 
> As I mentioned above I would strongly recommend that you do not store 
> your authentication credentials anywhere. If you need this to be an 
> automated system don't bother - it's not worth the risk.
> 
> Oh, and don't underestimate the damage that can be caused by someone 
> gaining access to this account. Just because you can't carry out 
> transactions through the site doesn't mean the information it gives you 
> access to can't be used for evil purposes.
> 
> One last thing... you may find yourself getting blocked from the banks 
> site if you make too many failed requests. You may want to pick another 
> site while you learn how curl works.
> 
> -Stut
> 
> -- 
> http://stut.net/
> 

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