I recently subscribed to php-general(2 months I think) and during this time I saw some nice stuff, but most of the times (90% ?) It's always the same thing. PHP "Developers" that really have some kind of problem about reading the Documentation. This is not a rant, really! I'm an experienced developer and I have 5 years of php already, and I still learn new functions that I never saw! PHP has a extensive set of functions and objects that you can use to solve almost anything, they are there, waiting for you, and believe me, most of the times there's a function that will fit perfectly for you. Among these years I saw hundreds of lines of code, and came across many different developers and quality of code, and some php developer I worked think that knowing how to declare a function, a couple of if's, prints and sql solved their problem and it was ok, but it is NOT! this one is a real life example of what can you end doing if you don't READ THE MANUAL! /* find the last day of the current month */ for ($i = 31; $i >= 28; $i--) { if (checkdate(date('m'),$i,date('Y'))) { $last_day = $i.date('/m/Y'); break; } } ok... what about? date('t/m/Y'); t = Number of days in the given month this is just a short example in what you can end doing just because you don't want to read the manual think about the PHP online Documentation is great with great examples, download the CHM or HTML to be accessible all the time I hope it helps ;) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php