I did a simple test like this on my save page: <?php $comments = $_POST['comments']; echo "0000".$comments."0000"; ?> And it returns 00000000 So, that should show me that there are no place holders, no characters, and no carriage returns for the value of $comments, correct? On 10/23/07, David Giragosian <dgiragosian@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 10/23/07, Dan Shirah <mrsquash2@xxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > > > I am having some issues with empty(). > > > > On my page I have a text area: > > > > <table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" > > width="680"> > > <tr> > > <td width="600" align="center"><span class="inputlbl">Comments: > > <textarea name="comments" tabindex="39" rows="3" cols="45" > > wrap="soft"></textarea> > > </span> </td> > > </tr> > > </table> > > > > I then submit my page and on the following page I put the posted value > > into > > two variables. > > > > $comments = strtoupper($_POST['comments']); > > $check_comments = $_POST['comments']; > > > > I made two variables for the same posted value because I believe empty() > > does not work with strtoupper in front of the value. It only works with > > a > > standalone variable, correct? > > > > So, once I have assigned my comments to a variable I am doing: > > > > if(!empty($check_comments)) { > > echo "Do Something"; > > } > > > > However, if the comments textarea is left blank I just get a generic > > error > > "Changed database context to database" > > > > I've tried the below and get the same result: > > if($check_comments != "") { > > echo "Do Something"; > > } > > > > When comments is left blank and I echo out the value for $check_comments > > it > > returns nothing at all which is why I think empty() or "" should work, > > but > > they don't. > > > > Ideas? > > > I've been tripped up by spaces in text fields/boxes, so I've learned to > trim before testing for strlen == 0. > > strtoupper returns a string. If there were a zero-length string in the > textarea, I'd guess it would return a zero-length string. > > Are you sure there are no carriage returns, etc... in your textarea ? > > David > > > > >