I see reading the online docs that I'm supposed to go: socket_create... socket_bind... socket_connect... I've never used the bind function and it hasn't seemed to make any difference? I've always just done socket_create() and then socket_connect(). What benefit is there to putting a socket_bind in between? Bill -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php