I don't use lists regularly, sorry for the double-reply to Nathan. Sadly: - no ssh on the client box - can't 100% mimic because I have a different Apache However, I did use symfony freeze to move all the Pear modules etc that it needs, into the local site. An additional clue might be: the first problem I had was that autoloading wasn't working at all, until I moved all the files it needed into one of the symfony lib dirs (it wouldn't seek into my app dirs) I see a couple things in their phpinfo that concern me... does anybody see a warning flag here? The customer's site was compiled with --enable-force-cgi-redirect ... and the server_software row says PHP5 was compiled CGI only... mine was compiled with apxs2. They have something called sourceguardian, never heard of it but my source was fine till this webserver got ahold of it... ? Ps: I have 4 other apps installed in this project and they all work fine :\ Believe me, in a file as short as a symfony front controller, and after checking about 40 times, I'm pretty sure the file is OK :) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php