[snip] if($r = !$r) [/snip] And I hit send before I finished my thought process oh my goodness isn't it five o'clock yet and why do all of these people keep coming by my office distracting me from getting something useful done like replying the PHP list and why doesn't someone bring me a beer? if($r = !$r) is a conditional check that most folks would read as follows; if the assignment of $r to !$r occurs the statement is TRUE. Since PHP is loosely typed we all know that an assignment will occur regardless of what is assigned. That why we use additional operators to determine the TRUEness of a statement; if($r == !$r) or if($r === !$r) That is why we code conditional checks (if we're smart) by putting the constant on the left hand side of the check to reduce/locate typographical errors when coding conditional checks; if(1 == $foo), because if we assign $foo to 1 the compiler will throw an error and we can fix it pretty quickly. This is one of those special cases where this logic gets thrown out. I am going to see if the same thing will work in C++ because I am pretty sure that no other language has this feature....maybe C. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php