Hey when i upload a file with the move_uploaded_file function the perm on the uploaded file is 0600 the same work with copy the result ist 0644 with php4 the result was always the same and know with php5 it is diffrent i serached in the bug list and found this in the link below and it is not a bug ? http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=41255 BR/Torsten -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php