Is there anyway to get PHP (v5.1.6) to use the OS time for date functions as PHP4 did? phpinfo() lists something called "Timezone Database: internal" under the date section, so I'm guessing that's where the data is originating. Here's the background: We have a LAMP server that has a special rule created that ignores daylight savings time, and MySQL will 'defer' to system time so that: shell> date Thu Sep 13 11:52:43 CST 2007 and mysql> select now(); +---------------------+ | now() | +---------------------+ | 2007-09-13 11:52:43 | +---------------------+ 1 row in set (0.00 sec) give the same result. However, echo date('Y-m-d H:i:s') produces the time in Daylight Savings time, i.e., an hour ahead. I've resorted to testing whether we are in DST with date('I'), then adjusting displays for the hour difference, but PHP4 just pulled the date/time straight from the OS. Seems like being able to set date.timezone=system so that PHP will follow the OS rule would be a good idea. But doing this, or leaving date.timezone blank in php.ini, causes PHP to grab the correct timezone data from the OS, but it adds the hour for DST. Just wondering... I've spent half a day trying different approaches and nothing has worked. Thanks, David