Consider using the __autoload() function in php. (also the SPL autoloading features). It's a way to tell php to load a file when it cannot find a definition for a CLASS (only for classes). I don't know how you have set-uped your project, but in mine the only place in the project where I use include is thie __autoload() function. In other words - php supports load-on-demand for classes. Check out http://php.net/__autoload Regards, Emil Ivanov "Dave M G" <martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:46AF0212.9020906@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > PHP general list, > > This is probably obvious to people who are good at PHP, but I'm > > I have a PHP based CMS (content management system) built, which has grown > and become quite robust. It's now spread out over about 30 files, and each > file represents one class within the object oriented design. Each are a > couple hundred lines of code, and two or three of the most critical > classes are over a thousand lines of code. > > While first building it, I didn't really anticipate quite that many files. > What I did is have a file called "includes.php", which list all the files > to be included. Then I in turn included "includes.php" at the beginning of > my "index.php" file. Every page request passes through the "index.php" > file, so that basically means every single file is included at the start > of every new page request. > > I'm using Zend Studio, which has a "profile" option, which shows how long > it takes for my PHP scripts to complete a request. It has a breakdown > showing percentages of which scripts are using that processing time. > > Currently, my processes are taking under a second, but they can be around > half a second or more. Although it all happens too fast for me to really > notice as a person, it seems to me that a half second of processing time > might be kind of long and lead to scalability problems. > > My first question is: Is a half second too long? I'm pretty sure it is, > but maybe I'm just being paranoid. What do people consider to be > acceptable time frames for processing a web page similar to what Wikipedia > delivers? > > Most of the time is taken with the includes. Anywhere from 60% to 90% of > the time it takes to process my scripts is coming from the includes.php > file. > > I read somewhere that it's not a good idea to have more than 10 includes > in any one place. I'm fine with trying to break up my include requests, > but I'm unsure as to how. As each function in each class passes around > objects, it's not clear from looking at the code which ones are used at > any one time, so I'm unsure how to efficiently include only the necessary > classes. > > My second question is: Is there a systematic way of determining how to > incrementally include files that people use? Or is it just a constant > process of testing and checking? > > Thank you for any advice. > > -- > Dave M G > Ubuntu Feisty 7.04 > Kernel 2.6.20-16-386 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php