[snip] Out of curiosity, is there any effort in creating a new DOM that's easier for application builders (something like Visual Foxpro)? Does Web 2.0 or maybe 3.0 offer some new <input> types, say something like a real grid, or maybe a modal child popup? [/snip] [potential holy war bits] There is no such thing as Web 2.0 much less 3.0. Really. AJAX is a METHODOLOGY (a quite simple one at that) not a LANGUAGE. [/potential holy war bits] Having said that....(and someone else explained DOM earlier) There have been several very robust and cross-browser (more and better browser support as well) JavaScript libraries put together lately and most of these support some sort of AJAX functionality. Some of these may offer what you are looking for. Let's examine your "real grid" question for a moment; A table is a real grid. Not necessarily an interactive grid, but a real grid none the less. Are you looking for something along the lines of a tag that would be like this? <grid cols="24" rows="16" border="1" tabMove="yes"></grid> In this example I have enabled a 24 column x 16 row grid and hitting the tab key will move between cells. As far as know nothing exists like this in the W3 specs for HTML, DHTML, or XHTML now and is not likely to anytime soon as these are all derivatives of SGML which is a mark-up language, not a modal language. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php