Re: Going from simple to super CAPTCHA

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On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 19:34 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 19:23 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> > > On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 18:19 +0200, Tijnema wrote:
> > > > > On 6/12/07, Robert Cummings <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 12:01 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 11:56 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     (10000 * 100) / 1000000 = .10 = 10% of the time
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bad math alert... (10000 * 100) / 1000000 = 10    ;)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Still the same answer though, was just mixing what I wrote with what I
> > > > > > > was thinking :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bleh, what's wrong with me today... it's 1% not 10%. Still within reason
> > > > > > for a spammer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *smacks head to clear the fog*
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So, that means that you need to allow maximum of 10 attempts per few
> > > > > minutes, so that there will be 0,1% change ;)
> > > >
> > > > Using Ted's technique I've found the perfect CAPTCHA -- and it's fun
> > > > too:
> > > >
> > > >    http://shorl.com/nomojeryprafri
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Rob.
> > >
> > > Hmm, LOL
> > >
> > > Ok, found him ;) He's under the ground ... :P
> >
> > Heheh, nah, not this time... he's in one of the bumper cars :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rob.
>
> I see ;)
>
> So you want to take this picture, change the position of bin laden
> randomly, and then just let every user before they post find bin laden
> ;)

Of course not... I posted it as a joke :) Besides, it would be weak
against pattern matching of Bin Laden's head or if different heads were
used then would be able to compare images to find where differences
occur... but I know you knew that already >:)

Cheers,
Rob.
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   Okay, here's something I whipped up today:

   http://pilotpig.com/captcha/index.php

   Works pretty well, but keep in mind that it's in the very early
stages.  I randomized the position and size to assist in throwing off
Turing detection, and added color not only to screw with the
color-detection schemes, but also in case it overlays the target
bubble.  It's 600x400, so that's 240,000 potential spots to click,
with random size, location, and area coordinates thrown in the mix.

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