On 6/11/07, Daniel Brown <parasane@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 6/11/07, Tijnema <tijnema@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 6/10/07, tedd <tedd@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >Tedd: > > > > > >Please don't spread the code of your Audio CAPTCHA, we had a big > > >discussion about it, and we concluded that it was quite easy to crack. > > >I remember i've cracked some other CAPTCHAs, but if you still think > > >your Audio CAPTCHA isn't hard to crack, then just let me know and i'll > > >start cracking it :) > > > > > >Dave: > > > > Dave: > > > > The point is not how easy my Audio CAPTCHA is to crack, but rather > > one of accessibility. > > > > If one insist on using a graphic CAPTCHA, which in most cases can be > > cracked, then at least add an Audio CAPTCHA to allow access for the > > visually disabled. > > > > Or, is the point here to allow bots and block the visually disabled > > -- I think not. > > Surely not, but what you're doing with adding a weak audio CAPTCHA is > adding more options for a hacker. Since the form can be submitted by > either completing one of both CAPTCHA programs, the hacker can choose > whichever way he likes. So if you have a very very strong Graphic > CAPTCHA, but a very weak Audio CAPTHCA, than it isn't too hard to > crack, as the hacker would only crack the Audio CAPTCHA... > > > > > Look at the CAPTCHA's use here: > > > > http://sam.zoy.org/pwntcha/ > > > > and their efficiently at blocking bots, which next to nil. > > > > So, if people are going to believe in the false notion that CAPTCHA's > > block bots, then why not provide a way for the visually disabled to > > obtain access as well? Why just block the visually disabled? > > The question is not if the CAPTCHAs are crackable, because they are! > But, like we said in the other thread, it's by finding the right way > between the time needed to crack, and the time needed to type > over/listen to CAPTCHA. Adding Audio CAPTCHA decreases time to > crack... > > > > > > >I think you remember the thread tedd ;) > > > > I remember the threads, but nothing that was said there is counter to > > what I said here. > > > > Cheers, > > > > tedd > > It's atleast an interesting thread about CAPTCHA. > > Tijnema > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > Quote of the day, hands down: "The brightest ideas have to pass through the dimmest minds...." ~ Tedd (speaking of programmer-vs-management obstacles)
LOL... :) Saved it ;) Tijnema
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