When in-scope and using static functions, use self: <code> class Static_Ex { private static $variable = 'This is a static variable'; public static function tryStatic() { return self::$variable; } } echo Static_Ex::tryStatic(); </code> If you think about it, there is no $this in a static function. If static functions do not need an instatiated object to access class code, you don't refer to them the same, nor do you use $this internally inside the functions that are static. Using static functions and variables is quite tricky. Static methods and variables make tasks like programming a singleton to point to a single database connection for all database activities on a website simple and easy. But if it has to interact with the internals of an instantiated object within it's own class, then you need to either pass in all variables (Static_Ex::method($this) when in scope to an instantiated object should work), and/or make it work entirely on it's own without $this. -- Jared Farrish Intermediate Web Developer Denton, Tx Abraham Maslow: "If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail." $$