On Apr 21, 2007, at 7:39 AM, Børge Holen wrote:
On Friday 20 April 2007 23:38, Edward Vermillion wrote:
On Apr 20, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Richard Lynch wrote:
On Fri, April 20, 2007 3:59 pm, Edward Vermillion wrote:
On Apr 20, 2007, at 3:10 PM, Daniel Brown wrote:
You're exactly right, Richard. MacOS is based on BSD.
And if you have any familiarity with linux administration, forget
almost everything you know 'cause they changed it in OSX...
Hmmm.
I didn't try to "administer" much, but once I find and open up a
terminal window, it pretty was just like being on BSD, afaict...
I'm not a BSD (nor Linux) guru, but I typed things in the shell, and
they did what I expected...
Yeah, the shell is familiar and except for a few differences between
linux and bsd in some of the commands it's very familiar.
But pretty much everything under /etc has been replaced with NetInfo.
I'm sure it's great for guys that have a thousand boxes to admin, but
it's a pain for just setting up one box. I guess I could spend a week
or so getting familiar with all the command line stuff for NetInfo
since the GUI is no real help. But it sure would be nice to just be
able to edit the config files like I'm used to...
Ed
The only good things left on the darwin code is vim and the ssh
client, witch
is fairly similar to the different unices boxes I'm used to.
Trying to compile stuff with the compiler to get things going is
like digging
your own grave... and yes netinfo I didn't understand at all, witch
genious
did come up with that crap?
<rant>
Yeah... and leopard will have "Spaces" oooooohhhhh. Multiple desktops
on a Mac, that's what I call innovation! :P
</rant>
I did have some luck with Fink. It's a fairly good GNU environment
and things tended to compile rather well (Apache, PHP, etc). I even
had KDE running for a while, but it didn't like user switching and I
think the power saver stuff. It would lock the computer up a little
too often.
I eventually just pulled Fink out because I've got an X login over
ssh to my linux box and any GNU programs I need to run I just run
from there.
Ed
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