On 11/11/06, John Nichel <john@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Paul Novitski wrote: > At 11/10/2006 07:09 AM, tedd wrote: >> Lastly, I think we all know that "non-profit" simply means that at the >> end of the year you get to roll your profits over to the next year >> without incurring taxes on the excess. Nothing more. >> >> Plus, there's no limit or requirements as to the amount/percentage you >> pay yourself as compared to what amounts you apply to your "cause". >> So, mentioning "non-profit" to me is like saying you're just another >> scam -- and one, who's trolling for free php services. > <snip school lesson> > In the meantime, I suppose it is emblematic of my own innocence that it > always surprises me when someone asks a naive question and is answered > by insults and jeers in a listserve composed of bright and knowledgeable > people who have purportedly come together for mutual education. The OP didn't ask a 'naive question' about why his register globals isn't working or something like that...he asked us to do his work for him. No 'mutual education' there. > There > may be no such thing as a stupid question, but the same cannot be said > of the range of possible answers. > It's naive to think there are no stupid questions. > Had the original poster known enough about our field to ask for > recommendations of open source solutions, would he have been treated so > roughly? > Nope. > He didn't, by the way, ask for anything for free. He said, >> I unfortunately can't make it myself because I don't have the >> knowledge, can >> anyone of you do this for me? > > When no mention of remuneration has been made, why do you assume none > will be forthcoming? Is this how you greet all prospective clients, > non-profit or otherwise, who approach you asking for help? Are we to > assume that this indicates your innate curiosity, your desire to gain > clients, your ability to negotiate, your willingness to devote yourself > to a good cause, or your capacity for politeness? > If you followed the thread, you would have read that the OP got his panties in a knot when I posted him my rates for doing the job for him. > On the surface you appear defend your right to be paid for your work (as > though anyone had demanded otherwise!), but I would be very surprised if > the OP considered for a moment hiring any self-proclaimed professional > who replied so harshly to his query. > His loss. -- John C. Nichel IV Programmer/System Admin (ÜberGeek) Dot Com Holdings of Buffalo 716.856.9675 jnichel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Paul Novitski previously wrote:
My, aren't we grumpy! What big bad non-profit organization rained on your parade?
I agree with Paul. No need to jump to conclusions when it would have been just as easy for anyone on this list to ask a clarifying question of the OP. David