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On 11/11/06, John Nichel <john@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Paul Novitski wrote:
> At 11/10/2006 07:09 AM, tedd wrote:
>> Lastly, I think we all know that "non-profit" simply means that at the
>> end of the year you get to roll your profits over to the next year
>> without incurring taxes on the excess. Nothing more.
>>
>> Plus, there's no limit or requirements as to the amount/percentage you
>> pay yourself as compared to what amounts you apply to your "cause".
>> So, mentioning "non-profit" to me is like saying you're just another
>> scam -- and one, who's trolling for free php services.
>
<snip school lesson>
> In the meantime, I suppose it is emblematic of my own innocence that it
> always surprises me when someone asks a naive question and is answered
> by insults and jeers in a listserve composed of bright and knowledgeable
> people who have purportedly come together for mutual education.

The OP didn't ask a 'naive question' about why his register globals
isn't working or something like that...he asked us to do his work for
him.  No 'mutual education' there.

> There
> may be no such thing as a stupid question, but the same cannot be said
> of the range of possible answers.
>

It's naive to think there are no stupid questions.

> Had the original poster known enough about our field to ask for
> recommendations of open source solutions, would he have been treated so
> roughly?
>

Nope.

> He didn't, by the way, ask for anything for free.  He said,
>> I unfortunately can't make it myself because I don't have the
>> knowledge, can
>> anyone of you do this for me?
>
> When no mention of remuneration has been made, why do you assume none
> will be forthcoming?  Is this how you greet all prospective clients,
> non-profit or otherwise, who approach you asking for help?  Are we to
> assume that this indicates your innate curiosity, your desire to gain
> clients, your ability to negotiate, your willingness to devote yourself
> to a good cause, or your capacity for politeness?
>

If you followed the thread, you would have read that the OP got his
panties in a knot when I posted him my rates for doing the job for him.

> On the surface you appear defend your right to be paid for your work (as
> though anyone had demanded otherwise!), but I would be very surprised if
> the OP considered for a moment hiring any self-proclaimed professional
> who replied so harshly to his query.
>

His loss.

--
John C. Nichel IV
Programmer/System Admin (ÜberGeek)
Dot Com Holdings of Buffalo
716.856.9675
jnichel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



Paul Novitski previously wrote:

My, aren't we grumpy!  What big bad non-profit organization rained on
your parade?

I agree with Paul. No need to jump to conclusions when it would have been
just as easy for anyone on this list to ask a clarifying question of the OP.

David

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