php <-> js (was Javascript Navigation)

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Hi gang:

I changed the subject line, because I consider the topic important.

Forgive me my simplicity, but trying to tie communication between php with javascript is like trying to get the past and future to talk to each other -- they exist at different times. Normally, php is history when js steps on the stage and while js may say a few lines to php (i.e., Alas Poor Yorrick, I Knew Him ...), there isn't any real dialog.

Additionally, with regard to the web, their activations are different. JS listens and responds to user activities whereas php only responds to a limited set of prompts.

Ajax appears to blur the distinction somewhat, but it's still nothing more than a call from js to php and js has no idea if php's task was successful, or not. In other words, there is no real two-way communication.

To me, what's needed to combine these two languages successfully is simply communication, such as:

1. A way to send information from js to php and have php act upon it.

2. A way to send information from php to js and have js act upon it.

Then one of the two languages (most likely js) would need to have some sort of repeating polling mechanism where instructions could be handled -- an event loop.

When you have that, then you'll have the makings of a language that can develop real "desk-top-like" web applications.

But, that's my view.

tedd

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