Re: Earlier versions hurt PHP 5

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On 12/28/05, PHP Superman <phpinfolist@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I agree with Greg, if you guys don't care about new versions lets all
> downgrade to Pentium 1 computers using dial up, if we don't move from PHP 4
> to PHP 5 now, then when PHP 6 comes with a truckload of new features and
> changes to programming standard people who use PHP 4 will have a lot of
> problems with their PHP 4 compatible code. I'm not trying to be harsh to you
> guys because it's really the web hosting company's fault but we should all
> upgrade to PHP 5 unless you are using PHP-Nuke or something like that.
>
> On 12/19/05, Greg Donald <gdonald@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On 12/19/05, PHPDiscuss - PHP Newsgroups and mailing lists
> > < admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > As a developer, I would love to use PHP 5+ for applications but I am
> > > afraid to do so because 90% of web hosting companies do not offer it.
> > The
> > > biggest reason that that they do not offer it is because there is
> > little
> > > demand for it. The reason why there is little demand for it is that
> > > developers do not use it because webhosts do not support it. A classic
> > > catch 22 situation!
> >
> > I fail to see what this has to do with a 1961 novel.  Do you mean
> > chicken-egg perhaps?  There's nothing keeping _you_ from using one of
> > those 10% who are supporting PHP5.  If you aren't part of the
> > solution..
> >
> > > I think that continuing to offer prominent download links for PHP 4
> > > versions on the same page as download links for php 5 on the php.netand
> > > Zend sites is a major contributor to this problem.
> >
> > Doubtful.  I gotta think most people who use PHP do not install it
> > themselves.  Those who do install it themselves are probably smart
> > enough to find the older versions no matter where you hide them on the
> > site.
> >
> > > To get PHP 5 accepted,
> > > links to download earlier versions should be hidden away in some
> > obsure
> > > area.
> >
> > PHP4 does what most people need it to do.  No reason to upgrade.  You
> > can't really fix that since there's nothing broken.
> >
> > What is in PHP5 that you _need_ exactly?  If it's OO then there are
> > much, much better places to get your OO fix.  Not to mention I have
> > never once had a client ask for PHP specifically, much less PHP5.  I
> > use PHP 5 because I want to stay current with my skills, not because I
> > need language functionality that's missing in PHP4.  Same with Apache
> > 2, PostgreSQL 8, and MySQL 5.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Greg Donald
> > Zend Certified Engineer
> > MySQL Core Certification
> > http://destiney.com/
> >
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>
>
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> Hi Everyone, I am running PHP 5 on Windosws XP SP2 with MySQL5, Bye Now!




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Hi Everyone, I am running PHP 5 on Windosws XP SP2 with MySQL5, Bye Now!

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