I'm going to jump to the code as fast as possible to explain what I can, the key thing to remember in php5 is that the old &$var declaration has no real meaning in objects. php5's objects exist outside of the old oop reference. Consider: class Object { public $val; function __construct($v) { $this->val = $v; } } In PHP5: $o = new Object(2); $b = $o; $b->val = 3; print $o->val; // echos 3 in PHP4 (assuming var is used instead of public) $o = new Object(2); $b = $o; $b->val = 3; print $o->val; // echos 2 This is cause objects in php5 exist all on there own, that get referenced to a php variable. On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 05:23:45PM -0500, Alan Pinstein wrote: > > Question #1: Is the fact that references to objects in the form > $objRef = &$obj don't bump the refcount of $obj an intended behavior > that can be counted on? If so, cool! > > So, now that we have a way to do weak references, we should be able > to implement a reasonable memory management scheme for parent-child > objects. > > Normally from the client side the interface should look something like: > > $parent = new Parent(); > $child = new Child(); > $parent->addChild($child); Ok, i get to the code and well what I mentioned above explains why there is no need to use the $o = &$object; If I take your code and run it against one of the latest version's of php 5.1 i will get a var_dump($child) of: object(pChild)#2 (1) { ["parent"]=> object(pParent)#1 (1) { ["children"]=> array(1) { [0]=> object(pChild)#2 (1) { ["parent"]=> object(pParent)#1 (1) { ["children"]=> array(1) { [0]=> *RECURSION* } } } } } } Which is what I see as expected results. Curt. -- cat .signature: No such file or directory -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php