$words= "If length is given and is negative, then that many characters will be omitted from the end of string (after the start position has been calculated when a start is negative). If start denotes a position beyond this truncation, an empty string will be returned. "; echo substr($words, 0, 50)."......."; ?> I have been using this but how can I make sure I do not split a word in half? - Finishing on a <space> would probably do it. R. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php