[snip] No. By implementing the Countable interface, and implementing the count() method, the global count($c) function is supposed to call $c->count(). This is so the object can be treated like a countable array in the same manner. [/snip] I was asleep earlier....if $c is not an array 1 will be returned. $c is one number (200), not an array. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php