In a message dated 8/6/2005 10:59:44 P.M. Central Standard Time, php@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: As far as I know, it's not a shared hosting issue, but a permission issue. The site admin has not given the user under which your php scripts run permission to create directories and most likely files and other file system operations. It's a security issue. Robbert I see... I guess I could ask to see if I could get permission to do so then? lol never hurts to ask :) Thanks, Clint