Re: PHP noobie

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Bob Stia wrote:
Hello PHP list

First allow me to apologize if this is the wrong place for this and direct me to the proper place. (be nice now!)

this list is really for people who are programmning in php.
as you describe it your looking for a php solution as an end user,
so no this is not really the right place - although I couldn't
really say where you would be better off.


I know nothing about PHP and have read at least 100 faqs and googled for hours. I don't even know some of the basics.

given that you seem to have STFW,etc , till your eye bled - and that
by your own admission you are still clueless I (maybe
others too!) will try to point you in the right direction.


Allow me to explain. I am the webmaster for a small web site for a Florida car club. The members have been asking if they could post info about events, communicate community wide, maybe post their own Classified ads, etc,

I would like to comply with their wishes for an email/blog kind of thing
but don't have the foggiest notion where to begin. The googling/faq's don't help me a bit and appears to be pretty complicated. I don't even know the basics. I really have no desire to go into a steep learning curve to accomplish what should be a pretty simple thing. I need simple and easy.

I have composed in straight html (not that much,but enough) and with several GUI's. (all open source Linux based) I compose on my system and

ah if your using Linux on the desktop then you are already have an advantage :-)

then simply upload to the site with FTP. I have found a few PHP packages but are not sure what they do. They require PHP, MySQL or Postgres, and Apache. Do I really need to install Apache? (The site is

Apache is a webserver. you do need it - and its already installed
(assuming the ISP/hosting-company is linux/unix/etc running their servers,
as apposed to Windows - in which the webserver is probably not Apache
but instead IIS. in practice, *for the end user* (before I start a flamewar),
it does not really matter which webserver is being used (rather like it should
not matter which webbrowser you use or which email application you use.)

if the hosting company is running Apache then Im' willing to bet that
they also have PHP and MySQL available (PostGres is a database engine,
as is MySQL, MySQL is 'everywhere' whereas PostGres is a fringe player
 - not that many hosting companies support it - I would forget trying to run
any application/package that requires PostGres in your case)

you may have read the term LAMP?

L Linux
A Apache
M MySQL
P PHP (also Perl & Python)

a so called software stack - and it's installed blooming everywhere (almost) so
don't worry too much about these requirements - regardless you do not have to
install these yourself - your hosting company will have done all this (assuming
they support LAMP)

hosted by a commercial remote ISP as a courtesy/good will thing and I think they support PHP but do not wish to place any burden on them to

you will either have to ask them or garner the information - if they
don't support PHP then PHP cannot be of service to you unless you are
willing to switch hosts.

support the site) Do I really need a data base?

99% of all ready2go php packages/apps require a DB - I think you can
safely assume you'll need one.


Please be patient and point the old guy in the right direction.

there are plenty of php apps out there.
my first recommendation would be to try WordPress (http://wordpress.org)
which is a very nice php blog app that has a very easy install process.

I doubt WordPress will satisfy all your members wishes - but lets learn to
walk before we run heh :-)

whatever package you decide on, if you get into trouble installing it,
head to the relevant forum where the developers and users of said package
will be best able to help troubleshoot.

good luck.


Thanks,
Bob S.


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