Feedback on the various PHP-MVC implementations

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Hi, folks.

I'm looking for some feedback on a couple of the php mvc implementations
out there.

The two that I've seen referenced the most are php.MVC
(http://www.phpmvc.net) and Phrame (http://phrame.sourceforge.net).

I've looked around and found some okay opinions on both, but I'd really
like to hear from some people on this list who have used one or both
directly, or any other MVC frameworks that you feel are worth
mentioning.

I've looked through the archives but have not found much from people who
have actually implemented any of these frameworks, just mainly comments
of what they look like on the surface.

If anyone here has any direct experience with either of the above
frameworks, or with any other stable, mature frameworks please let me
know.

Cheers and TIA,

Pablo

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