Hi, This is getting pretty irritating because by now even a stone would have understood what I was trying to say...so either you are playing dumb or you just dont want to understand, that said, this is my last response as I have much better things to do than say the same thing over and over.......and over and over etc again. > > Not really, the service is still the same... true, > > but what happens if he decides to buy one more scan (49$) from that site > or > > decides to buy a 1 month scanning option ($119) or 1 year scanning > ($899)? > > Does a little birdie get 35% (recurring) of that? ** Read my phrase again: nothing changes for anybody that follows the link, whether or not anybody gains from any referrals. That means that if a person that follows the link that I suggested buys $1000 worth of services or goods, he would still pay $1000 if the link did not contain my referral id. ** Thats how affilate systems work, they dont "add" your commision to their products, they give you a kind of "brokers fee"....but you already know that of course. When you say "nothing changes for anybody that follows the link" thats a half truth as you would profit if he actually buys something as i have said over and over and.....again. ** but the way you are putting you are confusing other people reading the thread by making them believe that the price would be different if I were to get any commissions. ** Never said that, all I said (and i'm repeating for the damn 10th time(at least)) that you should just mention that the link you send contains your affiliate code and you gain something if they buy. >what would you say about the PHP group that lists a pile of books in Amazon linked with their affiliate > id but they do not mention that fact anywhere in their pages? http://www.php.net/books.php -------------- > Ummm..... this is whats written on the page: "If you buy the book using the links on this page, you are helping to support PHP development! " > Lucky for me, English is my mother tongue but I think even if it was'nt and my IQ was quite a bit lower > I would still the idea that if I buy a book using one of those links the site was gaining from it. *** You are not being serious and you are only acting with bias against me, as nowhere in that page it says that when you use those links, the PHP Group (I suppose) may earn 15% on commissions of books sold for their referrals to Amazon. *** Bias against you? You nuts or something? They dont have to say how much they are getting, they just mentioned that they gain from it (the decent thing) Maybe you could have written; "clicking the link might help me pay my bills"...or is even that too much for you? *** My point is that it is pretty common to not distract people with the details of who gets what with referrals because it does not change anything for who follows a link with our without the referral id. The price and the service is the same. *** First, you are not "distracting" anybody, you are simply being honest and showing the person you are helping them but you are also "conntected" with the site and may have a different motive for helping them...let them judge. *** What matters is who wants free help can get free help even if that help provides some benefit to the person that is providing it. If a person that gets free help does not like that whoever provides the help benefits from that too, that person is just being ungrateful and so does not deserve to be helped. *** Arrrgh, that just sounds so wrong I wont even go there. *** Don't be ridiculous! Everybody gains something when he helps somebody on these lists. Sometimes people just feel good for being helpful (think for instance of Richard Lynch), other times people actually gain reputation and are contracted to provide paid jobs (think for instance of Chris Shifflet), some may even gain money indirectly from commission referrals (think of the PHP Group with the books page), etc.. *** Fair enough...and people like me gain knowledge and tips from reading other peoples posts. As for people who gain indirect commission referrals...which is what this is all about... let me put it in a way that might help you understand the whole point of this side-discussion: T H E Y S A Y T H E Y A R E C O N N E C T E D W I T H T H E S I T E in some way...or that they are gaining from the referral (like in the php books link) *** but all my time is taken with all the PHP related projects that I work on and at least hundreds of thousands of users benefit. *** (no comment) :-) End of discussion from my side, if you want to continue to argue about the above please write to yourself (both what I would say and your answer), but what I do suggest is you take some time off and do some thinking... we are not all out to "get you"...look into the words 'paranoid' and 'megalomaniac' Have a nice day. Regards, Ryan A -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. 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