-----Original Message----- From: Mikey [mailto:frak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 09 May 2005 15:40 To: php-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Accessible HTML - OT Hiya! I have just come back from the client visit and one of the issues that arose was over the use of accessible markup, more specifically the use of tables versus the use of layers. Now, my long held belief was that div/layers were added to the spec so that designers could separate presentation markup from content - that is, use positioned layers for laying out content, use tables for tables of data as they were originally intended. However, my client seemed adamant that it was the other way around and that the use of tables was preferred owing to browser compatibility issues. ---------------------------------- It depends how far back you want to go with this in terms of compatibility. It is simple to code for IE5+ and NN6+ /Mozilla which covers well over 90% of the market without using tables for layout purposes. I wouldn't say there was anything inherently "wrong" with using tables to control layout but the presentation vs layout argument you advance is fairly convincing. Accessibility (for e.g. the blind or partially sighted) is another matter. Look at Bobby for more information bobby.watchfire.com/ ---------------------------------- Now, I have just had a look around w3 and have found some inferences that support my view but nothing that states clearly in either direction. Does anyone on this list have a definitive answer for this one? TIA, Mikey -- The revolution will not be sent as an e-mail attachment. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Gamma Global : Suppliers of HPCompaq, IBM, Acer, EPI, APC, Cyclades, D-Link, Cisco, Sun Microsystems, 3Com GAMMA GLOBAL (UK) LTD IS A RECOGNISED 'INVESTOR IN PEOPLE' AND AN 'ISO 9001 2000' REGISTERED COMPANY ********************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This Email is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender IMMEDIATELY; you should not copy the email or use it for any purpose or disclose its contents to any other person. GENERAL STATEMENT: Any statements made, or intentions expressed in this communication may not necessarily reflect the view of Gamma Global (UK) Ltd. Be advised that no content herein may be held binding upon Gamma Global (UK) Ltd or any associated company unless confirmed by the issuance of a formal contractual document or Purchase Order, subject to our Terms and Conditions available from http://www.gammaglobal.com E&OE ********************************************************************** ********************************************************************** -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php